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ONLINE-ADS>> Cookie no more (was Ad flipping)

Mark Dolley (mark_at_zapworks.com)
Tue, 17 Jun 97 00:19:16 -0000

Alan Ferguson,alan_at_5line.com wrote on6/16/97 11:45 PM:

<snip stuff about banner model>
>While I have been pointing out on this list that IMHO, banners are ugly,
>intrusive, annoying, and now, suspect of being tools for big brother, it's
>still subjective. The cookie issue is another matter. The recent (and
>prior) studies done on almost 60,000 internet users by the University of
>Michigan, http://www-personal.umich.edu/~sgupta/hermes/ indicates that over
>81% felt cookies (when they knew what they did) were undesirable. From
>Inter_at_active Week, June 16, 1997, an article by Will Rodger includes this:
>"A survey presented by Privacy and American Business Magazine outlined how
>deep the mistrust runs. Of 1009 surveyed:
>
>87% said Web sites should not use personal data files, called "cookies"
>without first getting permission.
>
>85% deemed it important to tell visitors how Web sites use cookies."
>
>If one enables the "alert when setting cookies" feature of more recent
>browsers, the problem is annoyingly clear; many sites set multiple cookies,
>5, 10, 15, etc., that would seem to indicate that they are counting
>"impressions" without actually showing anything. It's no wonder why the
>technique is suspect and getting worse. And this was *before* the issue
>went mainstream the week of June 6, when major media, including The LA
>Times and NBC in the SF area, decided it was necessary to warn consumers in
>a big way. And now thanks to that and more to come, banners and cookies
>are, well, linked permanently together.
<snip>

Folk are wrong to assume that cookies will endure. Check out the new
Navigator in Communicator or the new Explorer - both of them will allow
you to refuse cookies as a default. What the browser maker giveth, the
browser-maker taketh away (so it looks like Doubleclick got that new
round of funding just in the nick of time). In the meanwhile, did anyone
notice just how quickly Cookie Cutter, the utility that lets you remove
them selectively from your magiccookies file (Im talking macspeak here)
rose to being up at the top of the most popular downloads on
Shareware.Com?

Even ordinary people didnt like cookies, let alone hard core netizens.
Anyone know how Doubleclick et al are going to cope now?

Glad to see everyone thinking again,

Mark Dolley,
Director of Business Development, ZAPWORKS

(+1) 415 551 1800 http://www.zapworks.com
New US office! 385 8th Street, Suite 210,
San Francisco, CA, 94103, USA
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