NONE: Re: ONLINE-ADS>> Catalog Mart
Re: ONLINE-ADS>> Catalog Mart
Bob Stewart (rstewart_at_mars.superlink.net)
Sat, 03 May 1997 17:44:56 -0400
Savvy.com freely admitted sending spams to email addresses it harvests from
the Web when I spoke to them on the phone a few months ago. They are often
mentioned in email lists and newsgroupgs dealing with spam.
Check out their DID-it.com: http://savvy1.savvy.com/emedia/internet.htm
I have never given these slimes my address, yet apparently I'm one of
"30,000 ...webmasters who have used the valuable Did-it Detective service."
I get email from that all the time.
Or check out: http://savvy1.savvy.com/emedia/consumer.htm
"The CatalogMart list contains more than 1.5 million email addresses in
over 50 topical categories." If you honestly believe that 1.5 million
people came to their site and voluntarily gave them their email addresses,
you are very, very naive.
Below is the only spam I haven't deleted. They sent it through
Cyber-Promo's "keepmailing.com." Cyber-Promo is the huge spammer that AOL
went to court to block from their network. In this spam they advertise the
same email lists that you're speaking about. Supposedly all opt-in--yet
they advertise it through a spam! And you believe this list is legit?
You obviously didn't check too carefully before you contracted with these
people to use their lists. I suggest you restrict your business
associations to legitimate businesses. As long as you support them, you
support spamming.
savvy.com message:
>SPAM:
>whatsnew_at_gardenweb.com>; Wed, 23 Apr 1997 03:44:25 -0400 (EDT)
>Received: (from didit_at_localhost) by keepmailing.com (8.7.4/8.7.3); Wed, 23
>Apr 1997 03:42:54 -0400 (EDT)
>Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 03:45:28 -0400 (EDT)
>From: whatsnew_at_gardenweb.com
>X-Envelope-From: didit_at_keepmailing.com Wed Apr 23 03:44:26 1997
>Old-Date: Wed, 23 Apr 1997 03:42:54 -0400 (EDT)
>Message-Id: <199704230742.DAA13888_at_199704230742.DAA13888>
>Reply-To: denise_at_savvy.com
>Organization: EmailMedia
>X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02E (Macintosh; U:PPC)
>MIME-Version: 1.0
>To: whatsnew_at_gardenweb.com
>Subject: Contact over 45,731 crafts consumers TODAY!!
>X-Url: http://www.gardenweb.com/
>Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>X-Diagnostic: Unprocessed
>X-Envelope-To: whatsnew-request
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
>Dear Website owner:
>
>How would you like to be able to email a sales message to up to 45,731
>consumers who voiced an interest in buying crafts and craft supplies online?
>
>Being a commercial site I'm sure you're interested in driving qualified
>traffic to your homepage. Until now you had two options: wait for
>customers to find you or run an expensive banner ad campaign. Neither
>one has proven to be an effective means for doing business on the
>Internet.
>
>We at EmailMedia have what we think is the best way to drive the traffic
>and not break the bank. We call it direct email. Direct email is a
>means for you to send an email sales message to thousands of prospective
>crafts customers. All you need is a good offer and a quality list.
>You provide the offer. EmailMedia can provide the list.
>
>EmailMedia manages many email lists and we think we have one perfect
>for your crafts and craft supplies business. We have almost 20,000 Internet
>users who visited the CatalogMart (http://catalog.savvy.com) and
>said they were interested in receiving email offers for crafts and craft
>supplies.
>They are ardent net users and like to do business by direct
>(mailorder) means. That's why they visited the CatalogMart in the
>first place. This would be the perfect way for you to email a
>sales message.
>
>The CatalogMart crafts and craft supplies list is available from EmailMedia
>for
>only 10 cents per name. You can send your message to as few as 1000
>or to all 45,731 depending on your budget. And that includes all
>fulfillment on our own email servers. All you have to do is compose
>your message and send it to us. Your mailing can go out within minutes.
>Our experience has been that you can expect a 3-10% response from
>your mailing.
>
>If you think you'd like to make targeted email part of your marketing
>mix, give us a call at 516-255-0500 or visit out site at
>http://www.emailmedia.com.
>
>Thank you for your time.
>
>Regards,
>
>Denise Navetta
>Sales Manager
>denise_at_savvy.com
>516-255-0500
Bob Stewart
The Virtual Mirror - http://www.vmirror.com
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