Re: ONLINE-ADS>> Yahoo Pushing Porn

e/y/e/s/c/r/e/a/m - mark grimes (grimes_at_eyescream.com)
Fri, 24 Oct 1997 17:20:22 -0700

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>From: "BULMASH.COM Sales" <sales_at_bulmash.com>
>Nevermind why I ran "butt" through Yahoo as a search term last night.

Be careful what you go looking for, you just might find it. GIGO.
If someone types in "hot monkey sex" no telling what they're looking
for, however they may find something on the vulgar side.

so be it.

>(breasts and pubic hair visible)

better than "breasts and pubic hair invisible "

>I'm of the mind that this is unconscionable and they need to hold
>themselves to a higher standard than this

I'm of the mind to ask "Why?"

Yahoo! is making *a lot* of money providing links to pages *a lot* of
people are looking for.

Okay gang, pants off, errr gloves off ;-)

(grimes subtle disclaimer - purveyors of porn are bottom-dwellers, taking
breakfasts with spammers, lunches with MLMers and dinners with
various online-marketing scammers)

One search site eyescream works with wanted to sell it's adult key
words to an adult content site. As much as it turned my stomach, the
eyescream rep (a soulless devil) found a buyer (unnamed here) in one day.

They spent $1,000 for 100,000 banners, received a 10% clickthrough and
COMPLAINED because they're accustomed to getting a 20% (or more)
response rate. These guys (actually the buyer was a female) spend over
$700,000 a month in online advertising....looking at my September 1997
Web Track that puts them at 4th in line of top spenders in online advertising
for the month....$100,000 above Ford, and $400,000 over Amazon. Keep in
mind this is the first adult advertiser that was approached, I would assume
there's plenty more.

>richard said
>60% of the searches in the top 20 of this list are related to sex. That is
>a heck of a lot of impressions available for sale. -- richard
>eyescream interactive's Yahoo Top 200 list:
>http://www.eyescream.com/yahootop200.html

Take a peek at this (it's more interesting than the Yahoo! list)
eyescream interactive's Dogpile Top 200 list:
http://www.eyescream.com/dogpiletop200.html

>From: "Mark J. Welch, Esq." <markwelch_at_ca-probate.com>
>Subject: Re: ONLINE-ADS>> Yahoo Pushing Porn
>I wonder how Amazon.Com, BarnesandNoble.Com, and
>other online booksellers deal with this?

eyescream approached top online advertisers to advertise on Nerve
Magazine http://www.nervemag.com (literate smut) which many
flatly declined. Only 3 months old, the site gets 7.5 million pageviews
monthly, and the editor Rufus Griscom, may well be the Hugh Hefner
of the digital age.

Some VERY straight laced (name brand) advertisers are running
on this site, $10,000+ a month contracts with incredible results.

The Internet is an edgy medium....those willing to exploit that fact
**in context** are rewarded generously....

>we as consumers should
>enforce by simply refusing to do business with companies
>that don't respect the rights of consumers not to be shocked
>by unwanted images and messages which are likely to offend.

bingo.

vote with your dollars, vote with your clicks, vote with your time.

>From: "Greg Bulmash" <greg_at_bulmash.com>
>"when Richard Pryor says 'f*ck', he uses it in such a manner and
>so well that it can be considered artistic. When most other comics
>say it, it's just pointless and crude."

I don't understand. Who's going to decide when f*ck is artistic versus
when f*ck is pointless and crude?

BTW -does anyone know http://www.f*cker.com is a killer (non-adult) web site?

All eyescream employees are dishonored with a personal email address
of name_at_f*cker.com (of course, only if they really want it) over-the-edge...
you bet....but it's for friends and family.

How about http://www.sh*t.com ? 800 people a day with nothing better
to do slap this in their browser, and Lord knows what they're looking
for.....I doubt fertilizer.

(BTW the air conditioning is broken and the eyescream staff is
cooking like animals in our offices, listen to Abba, laughing like
a bunch of girly-boys on Duvalin...I may regret this post by Monday)

I kind of regret it now....do I press send? And more importantly, if
I do send it what's our illustrious moderator Richard going to do?

<M>

eyescream interactive - we're hiring
welcome to your online job interview

http://www.eyescream.com/job1.htm

if you're not on the edge, you're taking up too much space
go click yourself...

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