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Re: ONLINE-ADS>> We CAN live without Yahoo!

TaoTree, Inc. (tou_at_tou.com)
Tue, 10 Mar 1998 13:22:13 -0800

Ray Taylor wrote:
>
> Kim Brooks <kbrooks_at_cortland.com> wrote:
> >I have been waiting for a new index to appear - one that is
> >edited, like Yahoo!, but more complete, like a spider.

I don't want to bring up a debate regarding the level artificial
intelligence technology has currently reached and what it can and can't
do, but I am terribly disappointed in the current level of technology
apparently (from a user standpoint) being used by search engines (and
directories)--or rather the lack of technology. The technology in
search engines is geared toward handling huge amounts of data very
quickly--unfortunately it doesn't seem to use much technology in
processing the data.

> >One that will weed out 404s automatically.

I took about 5 minutes once and thought of several very simple ways to
solve that problem. My guess is that it probably just comes down to
money -- it costs bandwidth and CPU resources to weed them out.

> >One that knows how to deal with frames.

You mean search engines can't handle frames? This seems absurd to me
(handling frames is not difficult)--but I am coming at this from a
technological standpoint, and not as a media/advertiser.

> >One that will treat webmasters more
> >graciously (since it couldn't exist without > our sites to
> >link). One that will bring world peace! (OK, that's a bit
> >much). I've been waiting for years now... but it seems that
> >everyone thinks Yahoo! dominates, therefore, they can't be
> >challenged. > (This also follows the Microsoft analogy.)

I don't think that's the reason necessarily (at least not the only
one)--read further...

> I agree with Kim that we need something that will out Yahoo Yahoo. I
> certainly don't go along with the view that they cannot be challenged.
> The analogy with Microsoft works on the level of not giving a damn, but
> not on the level of success. Microsoft is big in global business terms,
> Yahoo is only big in Internet terms. The fact that a sloppy organisation
> like Yahoo can get away with it is just another feature of the Internet
> - it is still a young and amateur business (and the geeks in the
> Internet business do NOT fit into the Gates league).
>
> I repeat my earlier point. For a few hundred thousand dollars you could
> wipe the floor with Yahoo, Alta Vista and all the others.

This is the real issue. It takes a lot of capital to run a search
engine (servers that can handle it are expensive). Yahoo is already
there--it would take a big chunk of change to oust them.

> Anyone interested in doing it, please send the cheque to:

Hmmm... Did that work? If I put my address here will someone send me
money? And I don't even need a few hundred, just one hundred thousand
would be quite more than enough.

We have already conceptualized something that we be believe will be the
next generation in search engines--but it will take time and money
(which we don't have) to develop. Just hope no one beats us to it.

Joel Shellman
TaoTree, Inc.
http://www.tou.com/

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