Re: Search engine submission software

From: Robert J. Woodhead (AnimEigo) <trebor_at_animeigo.com>
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 18:50:28 -0500 (CDT)

ROBERT J. WOODHEAD WROTE:
> > All any submission service (like mine) or program can do is
> > SUBMIT your URL to a search engine. When (and whether!)
> > they add you to their database is up to them. In the case
> > of real search engines (ie: altavista) that spider your
> > pages, your ranking depends on how well your actual page
> > ranks (for each query keyword or phrase) based on the
> > search engine's internal ranking algorithm, so the
> > submission method used has no effect; it is the content of
> > the page that counts.

TO WHICH CRAIG VINCENT REPLIED:
>That actually is incorrect. Most of the main search engines
>such as Yahoo, Infoseek, Altavista etc... actually don't
>process URLs submitted from search engine submission
>programs. If it's a widely used SE submission program (more
>than 100 users) it is more than likely useless for using
>and a waste of money in purchasing.

I cannot speak for other products, but I regularly check for
whether submissions by my robot are getting into the major
search engines and indexes, and have detected no problems.
I get same day service from Altavista usually, same as with
manual submission. Infoseek lists in 2-3 days, as usual.
The other major search engines are dead slow at adding no
matter how you submit.

Some general indexes even give my submissions priority
attention, because they know that they are obsessively
error-checked. Several have provided me with special
backdoor submission URLs. If a submission program or
service is being discriminated against, it is because they
are doing a lousy job of formatting the submissions.

My rule is, if I can't do as good a job or better (because
of the error checking) than manual submission, I won't
autosubmit. That's why I don't autosubmit to Yahoo,
because Yahoo is so important that it's worth tweaking the
submission specifically for Yahoo. I have an extensive
tutorial on this. Same goes for About.com, Open Directory
and a few others.

CRAIG VINCENT ADDED:
>From a lot of experience the only real way to do good in
>the search engines is by either getting an exclusive
>submitted specifically developed for your company and not
>used elsewhere...or by submitting the urls manually on the
>search engines. I find the SE submission programs good for
>free for all link pages and the non-major search engines
>but for the big ones you'll wind up getting burned.

For the big search engines (ie: Altavista, as opposed to
indexes/directories like Yahoo), autosubmission with a
competent submission service/program works fine. They
don't care so long as the submission is properly formatted.

As for FFA sites, submitting to them is a waste of time, the
clickthroughs are very low-quality (they don't convert into
sales) and it's a great way to get your email address on
spam lists. THat's why I won't autosubmit URLs to FFA
sites.

Best
R

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