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April 19, 1996                                           Digest#0021
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        "Marketing problem"
                ~ David S. Roberts

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                ~ Russ Nichols


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From: Kevin Fadden 
Subject: Moderator's Comments

Howdy Folks,

We have a much shorter digest today -- I promise that the next time a 
digest looks to require being split into two separate messages, I will 
hold some posts over till the next day.

I would like to briefly remind everyone that this is a forum for 
discussing advertising related issues. I do not mind discussing marketing 
or sales issues, if they come up in the context of an advertising 
discussion. However, we seem to have focused more and more on marketing 
than on advertising. May I suggest two things: 1) If you have marketing 
problems or questions, post them to the Internet Marketing Discussion 
Group, moderated by Glen Fleishman . 2) In the 
course of answering someone's question, please try to keep your answers 
and suggestions focused on advertising. You may touch on marketing and 
sales issues, but please, try to keep that aspect of it as brief as 
possible.

Bottom line is that this list was started with a specific purpose in mind 
-- we have been veering away from that at times, and should come back to 
center, or else we start to border on competing with Glen's list, which 
definitely was not my intention when I started this.

Thanks, and best to all,

Kevin Fadden 
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From: droberts_at_wizardsoft.com (David S. Roberts)
Subject: Marketing problem

I'm a brand-new subscriber to your list; from what I've seen so far, it
will be a valuable resource. As a footnote to what follows: I do not yet
have a Web page; I am working on it.

My sales/marketing problem is unusual. I'm a Macintosh database developer
whose creations are in the widely divergent areas of prospect/customer
tracking, insurance, manufacturing, education, health care and 
publishing.
To make matters more complicated, I'm not certain whether I want to be
actively involved in selling my products or to find an organization that
will take on the responsibility of promoting and selling them. (Since 
these
are not simple, mass-market applications, they will require support, 
which
in either case I would provide.) Since I'm tending toward the latter
position (finding a marketer), I have been advertising (well, kind of) 
for
a company to sell my databases (posting to the biz.comp.software
newsgroup), alas, to no avail.

I wonder whether anyone among your subscribers has encountered another
applications developer trying to find a sales/marketing organization? And
in the case of markeing directly to the end-user, how does one search
through the vast array of URLs and find places where, say, small
manufacturers or perhaps educators would be concentrated?

With best regards,

Dave Roberts


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David S. Roberts                                       Wizard Software
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                    Databases for Business & Industry
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From: Russ Nichols  <73642.204_at_CompuServe.COM>
Subject: e-mail newsletters

We took note of Rebecca Coffey's mention of e-mail newsletters, and we 
have a
basic question or two. We are in process of starting up a specialty e-
mail job
newsletter (for artists and writers in the CD ROM and WWW publishing 
industries)
and we were wondering how you convince potential advertisers--in our 
case, with
job placements--that our subscription base is big enough for them to 
justify
paying to place ads. We already have a bunch of subscribers, just from a 
couple
of announcements. Now we need publishers' ads. We will give ad space, in 
the
first issue. 
Any hints on how to promote an e-mail newsletter of this sort? I know 
enough to
post in the appropriate newsgroups, etc., but does anyone have any other 
tricks
of the trade?
{And I suppose this is a really dumb question, but what the heck is a 
meta tag?
It ain't in my Funk & Wagnalls.)

Regards, Russ Nichols in L.A. --Publisher of the forthcoming Artists' and
Writers' e-Job News. (copyright 1996)
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